The office of precinct committeeman (“PC”) has been has been called “the most powerful office in the world” because the PC is the closest structured political officeholder to the registered voter. A registered voter has no vote in internal Party policy; a precinct committeeman does. A PC elects district, county and state party officers, delegates to the Presidential convention and RNC members. PCs sent to the Pres. Convention vote on what policies the party platform will be advocated in the next two years. Through a monthly meeting, PCs interact with their elected Party officials to influence legislation.
Here’s the point: the Party does have good conservatives in it who are willing to take positions of Party leadership, but they won’t get elected into those positions unless the Party has a solid majority of conservatives in the PC ranks. As a PC, you can devote as much or as little time to other PC tasks such as helping to get out the vote on election day and informing the voters in your precinct about the best candidates, how best to vote on initiatives, etc. Politics matter. Look at the outcome of the last election. But to be able to vote for the Party leadership, a conservative registered Republican voter must be a PC. It’s that simple.
Step-by-step instructions for finding your local Republican Party legislative district organization.
Do you have a Voter ID card? Some states issue them. It may tell you what precinct you reside in, which congressional district you live in, which state legislative district you live in, and which school district you live.
Your main goal will be find out where your Republican Party legislative district organization meets and then contact the chairman of that organization to let them know that you want to become a precinct committeeman as soon as possible. If you are good at searching on the internet, you’ll probably be able to do this by using the following search terms: Republican Party county chairman [name of your county] [name of your state].
If that does not work, then “start at the top and drill down.” Go to the www.gop.com web site. Then click on the “ourGOP” drop down menu and click on “States.” Find yours. Click on the link. The state Party Contact Information area will have phone numbers listed and a web site for the state Party web site. Click on the web site address. When you get to your state Party web site, look for Local GOP or Contacts, etc. Every state is unique, so the web sites will vary. Just keep trying to find your county and your congressional district and legislative district. Then start calling and e-mailing the elected Party leaders “closest” to you and tell them you want to volunteer to become an interim, appointed precinct committeeman as soon as possible and that you eventually want to become an elected precinct committeeman when the primary season rolls around. If necessary, look in the phone book and find the number and address of your local Republican Party office. Call them. If they don’t call back, get in your car and go to the office and bang on the door until someone answers and tell them you want to know how you, as a registered Republican voter, can become a VOTING MEMBER of the Republican Party.
For example, the Republican Party of Maricopa County, Arizona has a very good web site with tools for Maricopa County voters to find out in which legislative district they reside and how to contact their legislative district Republican Party committee. And the web site has a very good explanation of how and why to become a precinct committeeman and what a precinct committeeman can accomplish on behalf of one’s self and the Party
Click on Resources. Scroll down to Become A Precinct Committeeman and click on the link.
That will take you to: BeAPC.com.
If none of the above works for you, call the office of any elected Republican officeholder in your state that you know of. Tell them you want to become a voting member of the Party and you want their help in making that happen. Demand that they help you. They do work for us, after all. They are public servants.
Now get to it!
I accidentally fell into your site and have read with interest. I emailed my county GOP headquarters and will take the next step in becoming a precinct committee person. I will also pass your blog info on to my contacts. I hope we can get organized quickly to impact next year’s elections.
Great! Thanks for spreading the word and getting involved.
I just read you comment. It been a long time since you wrote it so I first would like to say I hope the message finds you well and in good health. I wanted to know how did things work out. Are you a precinct committeeman?
I have also been attempting to organize my own Precinct and three contiguous Precincts. I wrote a Handbook for just this situation. We plan on offering to hold training sessions for those interested.
However, I am running into problems with the local Republican Leadership. They apparently do not see the need to organize our Precincts and have ordered me to abort my plans.
I am beginning to come to the conclusion that the Precincts should be organized with out Party affiliation. All voters should be invited and recruited. We should make up our minds about a candidate for their character and how sincere they are about our true American Values.
I am open for further comments.
Hi! What happened? I hope you get this message with peace and good health.
If you believe no one cares, then leave the United States, because we don’t need people who are uncaring like you. Move to China.
You are spot on! Here in Indiana the Republican party is run by RINOs. Can’t get any cooperation from them!!
May I view/receive a copy of your handbook. I am new to this endeavor, but am totally committed to totally fraud-free elections.
I sell my book on Amazon. If you are seeking a state precinct committeeman handbook, see if I link to one in the materials I have listed for your state or contact your state party committee. Thanks, Dan
I agree. What if a person is an Independent. Can they still be a PCP? Why are they making thi so harfd?
I came across your blog and am putting up a post on my blog to get the word out, along with a link back here. I recently signed up to become a PC in Phoenix after hearing about it from a tea party member.
Yes we will!
Appreciate your efforts!
Thank you for your comments. Who knows, maybe you spoke to me at the Phoenix Tea Party? I will add your blog to my links here.
Thanks for all of the information you are compiling on your blog.
And THANK YOU for becoming a precinct committeeman!
The county clerks nation wide are the best resource for new PCP’ names. Please e-mail me for a over view of how each county in this nation wants to reduce the number of PCP write-ins to reduce cost. This list is of all those that did and didn’t get elected. In Oregon it only requires 3 votes in your precinct or in an adjacent one. At the Polk County Republican Party meeting one legislator commented(before my comment), “it would be Christmas-time if we filled all our slots”, later I asked him why he hadn’t used the 172 PCP’ who wanted to be yet didn’t get three votes in his house district. Answer, I didn’t know the County had that info.
Do you happen to know the lead time on becoming a precinct chairperson? I would like a copy of your contact list. I’m in Missouri.
EXCELLENT ‘call-to-ACTION’, and 100% sound advice “Cold Warrior”! I know our Ron Paul meetup group in Ft. Worth, Texas even last year identified this process as a key step going forward.
One other effort which needs action on quite soon: fielding reliable (Constitution-obeying), and hopefully reasonably strong candidates wherever possible for local & regional races (particularly U.S. Congress) next year. Filing procedures & periods for next year (2010) often begin – or even END – in December of THIS year!
To: “Cold Warrior”
For a long time, after careful examination of the situation in which we find ourselves in America, it became painfully obvious that many of us in the “conservative” peonage are unhappy with the status quo. WE have been hoodwinked, deceived, swindled, violated and betrayed on a daily basis by the representation on all levels of government, from local to federal, but no solutions forthcoming to effect changes or reform.
I believe in what you are doing, your methods and your philosophies on being involved at the PC level. It is the answer I’ve been looking for. I am making my personal commitment to join with you and my fellow Americans pursuant to these goals to take the steps you have outlined and assume responsibility for my part in saving America from the pitfalls of tyranny and complete destruction of our beloved republic.
We will not allow “lawmakers” and this Administration to reshape these beloved United States into a European socialist state. Be confident of this: As sovereign American citizens, we shall maintain the freedom to make these kinds of decisions for ourselves, our posterity and our loved ones, until this nation has recovered from this predicament of despair and on the rise once again, so help us God.
I too am getting involved. I have contacted my County Chairman. Waiting for a response. Thank you.
Good luck with that Mr. Henson, I’m in Orange County, FL., and did the same as you did to no avail. GOP in Orlando, FL. seems to be a closed group. Plz lmk of your progress.
You have to be the persistent, polite “squeaky wheel” that gets the oil. You can run for PC this election cycle with or without the help of your county committee. See the soup-to-nuts explanation re how to run on the Pasco County Republican Committee website. I have other county websites linked with similar explanations. Thanks, Dan
Thank you for your contribution to the conservative ascendancy. I am proud to report I have fired an email to the county GOP chair, and expect to be in “boots on the ground” status in the near future. Your project inspired me to take an active role, and you should expect dividends.
I shall be proud to wave the flag of bold colors, not pale pastels.
I wish to thank you for your undertaking, as your endeavor is truly “for the children”.
Your writings have inspired me to make a positive impact on the present and the future. Your committeeman project (as well as Art Chance’s “revanchism”
are an inspiration which will yield a positive result here in my little part of “the Land of Cheese and Beer”.
May G-d bless you and your family.
Thanks for getting involved. Don’t wait for the return e-mail — it may never come. Just make sure you follow-up by all means necessary.
Thanks again. If you can write up a short piece about how to “do it” in your state, I can add it to the list.
OMGosh, this is what I have been looking for. I have been watching Glenn Beck the past two weeks and feeling more and more like I need to do something real — something more than having a strong opinion and telling it to other people who aren’t doing anything either! I am going to pursue this and let you know how it goes in my state. Nothing beats having a real vote.
You’ve hit the nail on the head. For example, I have heard Mark Levin say, on his radio program, “We conservatives must take back the Republican Party.” How? He never says. He said in his book, Liberty and Tyranny, answering the rhetorical question, “So, what can be done?”, “The Conservative must become more engaged in public matters.” (P. 195.) Anything about how to become engaged or what “engaged in public matters” means? Nope. He then goes on to state, “More conservatives than before will need to seek elective and appointed office, fill the ranks of the administrative state, hold teaching positions in public schools and universites and find positions in Hollywood and the media where they can make a difference in infinite ways.” (P. 195.) All good advice, but nothing about where real POLITICAL POWER resides — in the internal voting ranks of the political parties — the office of precinct committeeman.
Sen. Jim DeMint (R. S.C.) has written a book, Saving Freedom. His concluding chapter is “Citizenship 101: How You Can Make a Difference.” This how specific he gets — he has two paragraphs under the heading “Support Political Candidates.” Not a word about becoming a precinct committeeman in the Republican Party. Next, two shorter paragraphs under the heading “Be a Candidate.” Again, not a word about how one might first become a precinct committeeman to learn he lay of the land in the Party. No explanation of how a political party actually works. Citizenship 101, indeed.
I call these books part of the “Conservative Grievance Industry.” Lots of complaints, but no specific solutions.
The first step in achieving a political solution to our political ills, changing the outcomes of our elections, is by changing our political parties. We do achieve that by becoming voting members of them. By becoming precinct committeemen. Conservatives need to unite and stand together within the Republican Party. We can take it over. If we ACT.
Plz show me how to become one, Orange County FL. GOP seems to be a closed group.
The PC strategy has one obvious weakness. At least in my neck of the woods, there can be only two precinct people, one male and one female, per precinct. So people have shown up to our cencom only to find out their PC spot was already taken.
Is it different in Maricopa?
Oh, BTW Cold Warrior, the reason those authors don’t tell you how is because they don’t know themselves. Even DeMint. The pols are both ignorant of and bored by local ward & precinct politics. By all means, get active with the party, but you’ll probably find that the candidates and their funding sources emanate from entirely different quarters.
I too have been inspired to get more involved. I recently emailed my state GOP asking for information on becoming a precinct committeeperson. No response.
I then emailed my local county clerk. She did respond. She told me the position of precinct committeeperson for both parties had been eliminated in 2002 in my county of residence due to the difficulty of both parties in finding people to fill the positions. I then emailed my local GOP chairman in my community. I wanted to know of anything else he could tell me about the PC positions and to start a dialogue regarding possible future possibilities. No response. This was 2 weeks ago.
Am I stuck? Is there anywhere to go from here? Any advice would be appreciated.
I’m having the same problem here in Orange County FL., GOP seems to be a closed group. Plz keep me posted Lisa, and gook luck!
Got it done….
I feel a New Year’s Resolution coming on!
I just joined this site today, read about the PC project, and immediately did a Google search for my local GOP office. I hit the Contact button, and emailed my interest in becoming a PC. One hour later, I received an email that they will call me tomorrow afternoon.
Thank you for the way to take back America! I felt so powerless and frustrated before, now I feel empowered.
God bless, Mary Fabian
Thanks for getting involved in the fight to take back our country. You are my new hero.
Did they call you Mary?
I’m interested and sent an email stating this but never heard back. I am in the 14th Congressional District and would like to help but do not know who further to contact.
Right on the head! The precinct strategy is job one and to that end I am building tpatb.com (Tea Party Activists ToolBox). The purpose of the site is to help coordinate the efforts of our different groups, build a knowledge base, provide project management capabilities, and a place where volunteers, activists and candidates can exchange ideas and work together.
There is much work to be completed, so any help is appreciated.
Contacted GOP Chairman and he replied promising info but hadn’t come through so checked out County GOP website and got on the e-mail list. Received events notice and got another e-mail address for an RSVP to a meeting and that precinct president responded. He told me the name of the precinct committee woman and president in my precinct. I know them and am sure they’ve held those positions for years. Both of them are good people. Is there any other way to get involved? Can you be a write-in or interim for a neighboring precinct that has no one elected?
Thank you for being so persistent, Cold Warrior, and for providing so much useful information on your site. I learned about this site from your posts at RedState. I just e-mailed my local GOP chair requesting information on the procedure to become a precinct committeeman. You articulated beautifully the need to do more than talk and vote.
I started this process back at the end of October 2009.
Still being ignored by local GOP!
I just read the bottom of your post about contacting all state elected party officials….On we go!!
I won’t give up, but this can get very frustrating!
Thank you. I live in Aurora, IL., and am going to try this. Not sure what I am doing, but hey, that didn’t stop Obumbler from walking into the Oval Office, so certainly I can try this!
I’m curious… is there, on the internet, a list of each States County Precinct Chairpersons? Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but are the County Chairs the same as the Precinct Chairs?
I just did it …and it is June 14….OrdinaryCitizenextraordianarytimes@wordpress.com
Bravo! Thanks for getting into the real ball game of politics. Please recruit as many other conservatives as you can!
Wow, maybe it’s my ADD or the late hour but the step by step or any instruction or suggestion came WAY too late in the article. In fact I was so sick of reading by the time I found it that I skipped to the end to leave this comment and I’ll bookmark the page to read later. Otherwise great site. (Well you could go ahead and spring $10 for a real domain.) I’m going to link to it from my site but if you get the chance can you break up the long sales pitch to bullet points with optional expansions or links to the rest of the pitch for each point. I found myself yelling at the computer “Yes I get it! I have my keys in hand and am heading to the nearest precinct captain store to buy my precinct captain hat, JUST TELL ME WHAT TO DO NEXT!”
Ok, sorry for the rant. good site.
we the people,who are the real government,i would like all the information i can get to look into becoming a precinct committeemen here in queens,new york.as this is new to me,i would like a link,or web site etc.to start my journey,thanks for any information
Hi! I know this is kinda off topic however I’d figured I’d ask.
Would you be interested in exchanging links or maybe guest authoring a blog article or vice-versa?
My blog goes over a lot of the same subjects as yours
and I think we could greatly benefit from each other. If you’re interested feel free to shoot me an email. I look forward to hearing from you! Wonderful blog by the way!
What is the URL of your blog?
I have just waded in the mud to try and join the Bronx County Committee. Our chairman was arrested a few months ago, taking a bribe to sell the (R) nomination to a Democrat. They subsequently elected a former Democrat as chairman, who has worked for the board of Elections for years. I fully expect to be ignored from this outreach, as I was in 2010 when I switched from NY Conservative Party to Republican, and filled out form to volunteer. They sold my # and email to groups looking for donations and never contacted me.
I know this article was posted in 2009 and it is now 2015, but google brought me here when I was looking to find out who my precinct committeeman is and voice my opinion on who to vote for for the upcoming state chairman’s election. Great article but the link to the maricopa gop is dead. I’ve been told before that I should become a PC and I can commit 2-3 hrs a month but I thought it would take a lot more than that. I’ll see what I can do, because its time to replace John McCain and his minions.
Thanks. I will try to fix it and other broken links.
I am in Kentucky. Is a Precinct Captain the same as a Precinct Committeeman? If so, are they the ones that vote for their County Chair and Vice Chair? This is all new to me and there are different terms for different states. We have 54 precincts in my county alone. So does that mean we need 54 Precinct Captains and those 54 elect the chair and and vice chair for their county?
Is a Precinct Captain the same as a Precinct Committeeman? There are different terms in each state. I am in Kentucky. And do the Precinct Captains or Precinct Committeeman vote for their county chair and vice chair? I am new at all this so forgive me.
The termminology varies from state to state. I have a link to some good, but dated, info for Kentucky on this site. See if your county committee has a website and publishes its bylaws. Also see if the Kentucky Republican Party has published a PC Handbook.
I hope this helps.
Hi! Does anybody know if this is a paid position or not?
It’s a volunteer position. And, because it’s a volunteer position in a private club, NOBODY can order you to do a thing. You put into the role as much or as little effort as you like.
I became a Precinct Committeeman Chair in Wake County, NC this weekend.
Excellent. Thanks for letting us know.
i sent my first email to my senator in Kansas to get the balls rolling, I am so ready for this. I’m so sick and tired of being sick and tired of watching these yellow bellied, jelly backed fools destroying this great country. demons like nutty Nancy Pelosi make me sick. Don’t even get my started on the in our face stolen election.
Please check out the KS links here on this blog. Thanks.
I had filled out this out and you sent an email, which has subsequently disappeared in my box.
My memory banks are not that great, but I recall you would have Irina from Brooklyn get in touch with
me as well as another person, whose name I do not recall.
Is there someone up in White Plains, New York that may also contact me. My daughter will be moving
there and I visit, so perhaps this might be another source to get in touch with.
Sent you an email with Irina’s email address. Thanks, Dan
I am pretty sure you have contacted me within a day or so via email. Here, again, are my contacts in New York:
Brooklyn Irina email@example.com
Christopher Wright firstname.lastname@example.org
Joseph R. Lombardo, Esq. email@example.com
Keep at it! Keep recruiting!
Are there any people interesting in organizing in Gooding County Idaho. Or Idaho in general since I can’t find much. I need help even making contact with the Republican Party in my county.
Hi Jack. Please contact Dan at firstname.lastname@example.org and Joe at email@example.com, my two friends and cohorts in Idaho. Thanks, Dan
Hi Jack. Please contact Dan at firstname.lastname@example.org and Joe at email@example.com, my two friends and cohorts in Idaho. Thanks, Dan
Just saw a spot on Bannon’s `War Room Pandemic`. Basically an MSNBC hit piece, and how extraordinary that common peasants in a `democracy` (actually a republic) should want to waste their time participating in it. What an absurd notion for `election deniers`. Oh yea – they’ll add quite a few more epithets before we’re done. This is my first step, but it won’t be my last. I’m in.
Whomever wrote this article did not go to the “GOP.com” website and see how it is actually set up because these instructions make absolutely no sense:
“Go to the http://www.gop.com web site. Then click on the “ourGOP” drop down menu and click on “States.” Find yours. Click on the link. The state Party Contact Information area will have phone numbers listed and a web site for the state Party web site. Click on the web site address.”
None of those instructions work, starting with “Then click on the “ourGOP” drop down menu …”
Thanks. Sounds like the GOP.com website changed. I’ll take a look. Thanks, Dan
I did the same thing (Dec 15, 2021). If you go to https://www.gop.com there is no “ourGOP” drop down menu.
I have tried to find something that was similar but with no luck. It would be helpful if correct info was available. I am searching internet to find on my own. Local GOP site doesn’t discuss precinct committee membership.
Keep at it. You are doing everything right. Please email me at firstname.lastname@example.org if you can’t make any progress. Thanks, Dan
I’ve seen Dan on “The War Room” with Steve a few times, I keep saying I need to make time to get on this website and get the ball rolling to get involved. Well after a few months here I am. I need to read up on more information to be better informed of the process but now that I’ve taken the first step, I am not going to stop. With everything going on, Biden and the powers behind the scene pulling his strings, this Country does not have much longer before it’s too late. I’m all in now, we need to Make America First Again, Make America Great Again and we need to get off our collectives asses and fight back!
Well said. We all need to GET BUSY!
I am ready to retire and looking for the next adventure, need more information on this group
All of the information I have is at my site. Please go there and read everything and watch the videos and then act. Thanks, Dan
there is no info at all for KY. it just says open nothing more
On what platform? All of the KY links on this site work. Are you talking about the KY chat on the Precinct Strategy communications an collaboration platform on Pilled.net? Thanks, Dan
I noticed in order to be a precinct committeeman that you have to be a registered Republican. How hard and fast is that because I am registered independent.
It’s hard and fast. You are joining a Republican organization, not an independent organization.
Echo Brett Lincoln from September 22, 2021
I follow War Room Pandemic and Dan Schultz, (he was just on). We are not relying on the Washington Swamp. We are making it happen. We know right from wrong, fact from fiction, rigged from legitimate. Merry Christmas! Signing up to be a precinct committeeman.
All good… no, THIS IS GREAT information! I just bought three of Dan’s Book and plan to get ME and my MAGA friends and family on the ballot as Precinct Committeemen. Problem is today is Wednesday, Feburary 9, 2022 and the deadline is next week. So I’m going to have to do some fancy footwork to get me and mine on the balot!
John P Child, 610-203-6458
Radnor Twp, Ward 7-2; Delaware County Pennsylvania
Thanks. I hope you made it!
Hi Dan. I watch War Room every day and am quite interested in the Precinct Committeeman position. I live in Green Township, Hamilton county, Ohio. I I am on the primary ballot unopposed, so I feel kinda like the dog that caught the truck but doesn’t know what to do with it. does my position take hold imediately after the election? Do you have a contact in Hamilton County that I can trust and count on for guidance? I’m really wary that there are so many Kasich sycophants and I am 100 MAGA. Thanks.
Contact Jim Condit, Jr.: email@example.com Thanks, Dan
So, here is a question in regards to taking over GOP Precincts…
In order to get control away from RINOs and to get control of the Party back, can we or is there a way to just start a new GOP Chatter or Precinct..?
If you look at some States, like Georgia, the RINOs are preventing America First Patriots from taking control or blocking them on Committee Votes and basically blocking us by illegal means, so can we not just go around and form our own GOP Committees in some form or fashion…? Start funding our own Candidates…?
Yes, start a “shadow” organization. GA has a caucus system. If those in power now will not allow you all to participate, start and grow your organization/network. Then when the next caucus meeting comes around in 2025 (I believe), get all of your people to attend and make sure you have a parliamentarian and know the bylaws backwards and forwards and elect new officers by overwhelming majorities. You can use the Precinct Strategy communications and collaboration platform to get organized online. Click on the button on my site Connect With Other Conservatives in Your State. I hope this helps. Thanks, Dan
Our county constitution posted online says we use precinct committeemen but that’s not actually happening…they are not following the constitution as written….we simply sign up as delegate at election commission office and they notarize the form. Then we are in the county convention. There we get voted up to state delegate, or not.
Thanks for that info. Good luck.
I have been appointed precinct committeeman for Silver Creek precinct in Cowley County, Kansas. I will be running for election in the next election. Currently I have no opponents.
How did you do it? You just asked someone to appoint you to be a PC and they appointed you? How did you find out the seat was vacant?
Hi. I’m hoping maybe I could get a bit of feedback from you. I feel strongly about the issues (against the left narrative and things they believe in.) I am firm in what I believe, but don’t care to argue with the stubborn and shockingly ignorant democrats. A few friends are encouraging me to be a PCP. I’m retired, age 65. Although I want to do my part as a Christian and registered Republican, I’m not much of a people person. I don’t know details of what is happening, in congress, senate, other than from the news sources I get on my phone. So I don’t feel qualified to read senate bills (they are too long) and I have trouble understanding their meaning, as I can see they are meant to confuse. For these reasons, and not being one who enjoys talking to people, I don’t feel qualified, or have the energy to argue with people. I know that they need PCPs but I feel that I would not sign up for this, under normal circumstances. What would you say about becoming a PCP?
Become a PCP. Thanks.
Hi. I’m hoping maybe I could get a bit of experience feedback from you. I feel strongly about the issues (against the left narrative and things they believe in.) I am firm in what I believe, but don’t care to argue with the stubborn and shockingly ignorant democrats. A few friends are encouraging me to be a PCP. I’m retired, age 65. Although I want to do my part as a Christian and registered Republican, I’m not much of a people person. I don’t know details of what is happening, in congress, senate, other than from the news sources I get on my phone. So I don’t feel qualified to read senate bills (they are too long) and I have trouble understanding their meaning, as I can see they are meant to confuse. Although I can write and have more confidence in mass media, I do not enjoy arguing one on one, and I find it draining to argue with anti Christians, stubborn people about basic morals and facts. I know that they need PCPs but I would not sign up for this, under normal circumstances. What would you say about becoming a PCP? I don’t want to get involved not knowing what I’m getting into.
Become a PCP. Thanks.
Was voted in as a member of my county GOP 3 months ago. Have asked the precinct chairman two months in a row for information on the duties of a PC, and how to become one. Each time he said he would get it to me. He didn’t. Last meeting I asked him a third time and he said I needed to talk to the man who took membership applications, but he wouldn’t be present at that meeting. … So this will be the ‘fourth’ time (next meeting) that I will request this information. ….. I can’t help but feel I’m getting the run around. …… Perhaps not that critical in my state of Florida, as Desantis has fought to get his 20-8 redistricting though, but still surprised that info like what I am seeking is not readily available, even online.
I recommend you get others to join you an call every day. Email every day. Be polite “squeaky wheels that get the oil.” I hope this helps.
Thanks for getting into the fray.